[17], In March 1544, as the war of Rough Wooing commenced in earnest, Henry VIII sent his Richmond Herald, Gilbert Dethick, to the Privy Council of Scotland at Stirling Castle to demand the return to England of a number of these high-ranking prisoners who had been allowed home on licence. The way the article was worded suggested that Henry came to Scotland in person, which, of course, he did not. He notes that the capture of so many Scottish nobles at the time of the birth and accession of Mary, Queen of Scots did not affect Henry's policy or the Scottish lords' subsequent rejection of the Treaty of Greenwich in December 1543. November 1542 statt. Unoquha (talk) 07:11, 8 May 2010 (UTC), The article states that the battle took place in the Scottish Borders but the maps at the Battlefield Trust reference indicate a site in present-day England. The Battle of Solway Moss took place on Solway Moss near the River Esk on the English side of the Anglo-Scottish Border [3] in November 1542 between forces from England and Scotland. We have created a browser extension. ". These hostages and prisoners were mostly well treated in England, as it was hoped that when they returned to Scotland after their ransoms were paid, they would further the English cause. We need a citation that Maxwell never arrived at the battle; Phillips indicated that Maxwell was taken prisoner at Solway Moss. Schedules of prisoners, keepers, and pledges, Schedules of prisoners, keepers, and pledges, UK Battlefields Trust: Battle of Solway Moss 24 November 1542, "Battle of Solway Moss 24th November 1542", "List of Scottish Gentlemen taken prisoner 24 November 1542", English Heritage, Solway Moss in the Battlefields Register, with link to map of designated area, English Heritage battlefield report: Solway Moss (1995). Lord Maxwell, though never officially designated commander of the force, declared he would lead the attack in person. James ignored his uncle's request and further insulted him by refusing to meet with Henry at York. The news that his wife had given birth to a daughter instead of a son further crushed his will to live, and he is reported to have stated that the House of Stewart "came with a lass and will go with a lass". Die Schlacht endete bereits nach kurzem Gefecht mit dem englischen Sieg und einer fliehenden, sich in Auflösung befindlichen schottischen Armee. Was the border further south in this section in 1542, so that it was Scotland at the time, or was the battle in the Debatable Lands, or is the article just wrong and the battle took place in England? p. 315). Sir Thomas Wharton described the battle as the overthrow of the Scots between the rivers Esk and Lyne. [5] The English commanders Lord Wharton and Sir William Musgrave made reports of the battle. According to this account of the battle, the other commanders refused to accept his command and the command structure disintegrated. Solway Moss, also known as Solway Flow, is a moss, in the City of Carlisle in Cumbria, England near the Scottish border.As of 2005, the moss is the subject of a campaign by organisations including the RSPB and Friends of the Earth to get the area declared a Special Area of Conservation in order to prevent the destruction of the rare raised bog ecology. A number of captured Scottish earls, lords, and lairds were released; they sent hostages, called "pledges" into England in their place. [13] Chapuys said the return of some prisoners was prevented at this time by the Scottish government which claimed they were traitors for losing the battle, or suspected they were now being influenced by Henry. The Battle of Solway Moss took place on Solway Moss near the River Esk on the English side of the Anglo-Scottish border in November 1542 between English and Scottish forces.. Can you put an in-line citation from Cameron regarding this aspect? The Scots, after the first encounter of a cavalry chase at "Akeshawsill", now Oakshawhill, moved "down" towards Arthuret Howes. York was the furthest point north that he ever came in his life. [11] On 14 December 1542, Thomas Wharton's report of the battle was read to Privy Council, and they ordered that Scottish prisoners entering London should wear a red St Andrew's cross. He advances the idea that the Oliver Sinclair story was a political smear against James V. I have therefore altered the article to reflect the Oliver Sinclair story as depending on traditional chronicle accounts, and introduced references to Cameron (1998). When King Henry VIII of England broke from the Catholic Church, he asked for his nephew, King James V of Scotland, to do the same.James ignored his uncle's request and refused to meet him at York, leading to King Henry sending troops against Scotland. William Musgrave reported that Maxwell was still in charge and fought with the rest of the Scottish nobles, who were forced to dismount on the bank of the River Esk. But yes, 'Scottish Borders' tends now to mean the South of Scotland and Scottish administrative region, whereas 'Borders' could loosely stand for both sides. Rcpaterson 03:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC), We need a citation that Maxwell never arrived at the battle; Phillips indicated that Maxwell was taken prisoner at Solway Moss. An der Grenze zwischen den beiden Königreichen stießen englische und schottische Truppen in einem Solway Moss genannten Gebiet nahe der englischen Seite des Flusses Esk aufeinander. These were: the Earls of Cassilis and Glencairn, Lords Somerville, Maxwell, Gray, Oliphant, and Fleming, with Oliver Sinclair, George Hume of Ayton, Robert Master of Erskine, William Seton, Patrick Hepburn, James Pringle, James Sinclair, Alexander Sinclair, John Maitland of Awencastle, Henry Maxwell brother of lord Maxwell, John Ross of Craigie, the laird of Moncrieff, John Leslie younger son of the earl of Rothes, and John Carmichael.